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A Few Thoughts on Film Music

Film music has always fascinated me. As a life-long deeply avowed movie fan I must admit my weakness for film music and its ability to render me emotionally defenseless. The rising recapitulation of the title theme led by Horns and Trumpet, supported by strings and percussion is certain to break down whatever is left of my disbelief as I surrender myself completely to the words and images irrespective of their strength, plausibility or durability. I must also confess that after forty-odd years of song and n-media composition that the most moving emotional experiences I have ever had derive from film rather than recorded music.

This may, perhaps, result from an inability to abstract from song lyrics the depth and pith of what is being proposed or, alternatively, represent an echo of my formative classically immersed childhood where approbation was meted out more stingily and where the performance bar was considerably higher than other forms of popular music. In other words, snobbery.

It has taken years and years of practice to shed the pretensions of the pure classical experience and learn to embrace the sheer physical/emotional connection contemplated by pop music. The journey towards reconciliation has forked and branched continually, providing a rich palette of tools and ideas with which to craft film music.

To some extent film music has weathered post-war pop music unscathed. It is just as likely that the film music listener will hear Stravinsky, Shostakovich, Holst or Britten in the score as a pounding dance groove or, more accurately, one will hear both side by side one cue to the next. This is not to say that pop has not exerted a weighty influence on post-war film composition as its influence is obvious and extant whether it’s the theme to the Pink Panther or a found music cue in Apocalypse Now.

An interesting fusion of pop and ‘classical’ music is found in the work of composers such as Hans Zimmer where the orchestral components themselves are founded on pop tonality and form. Depending on one’s focus this may be attributed to the post-modern style of John Williams where traditional forms and themes were recast as iconic musical figures such as those found in Star Wars. Other composers such as Giorgio Moroder were enlisted to provide contemporary pop sensibilities to films such as American Gigolo and Top Gun to provide a seamless interface between found pop songs and the score. Music Television, especially the arrival of MTV and music videos, has contributed to this compositional approach

Contemporary pop orchestral composition has taken on a life of its own. Composers such as Zimmer can craft an orchestral soundtrack from pop forms and tonalities. The soundtrack from The Rock is a good example where the title theme is a confluence of simple major/minor transitions and the melody itself an exercise in studied pop simplicity – a recurring rhythmic pattern dominated by dotted half notes followed by two eighth notes over sixteen bars. There are, of course, some variations in the final eight bars but the overarching concept is founded squarely in pop melody sensibilities. The melody itself is harmonically simple and straightforward: Major and minor thirds, fifths and the odd seventh accompanied by equally simple chords comprised of unembellished major and minor chords. There is great power and beauty in Zimmer’s work, and, in additional to what has already been mentioned, his use of synth bass ostinatos and massive Japanese Okedo Daiko drum sounds (credit must be accorded Brad Feidel for his pioneering use and treatment of these instruments in Terminator 2 although Jerry Goldsmith also explored these elements in Planet of the Apes) adds sheer visceral drama and power. These elements provide unambiguous signals as to what the audience is about to experience as evidenced in the remarkable third installment of the Batman series.

Contrast this with, say, Bernard Herrmann’s Hitchcock scores for North By Northwest or Psycho and one cannot imagine a broader compositional gulf. Herrmann’s scores demand a great deal of the listener and ask the audience to activate their reasoning centers unlike Zimmer’s request to turn on the Limbic System.

How can such a musical range even exist? The answer is simply a function of what the film is asking of the audience. The Rock is asking the audience to be swept away in an action fantasy and any filmic element which pulls the audience from the intent is calamitous. There is no place in The Rock for the atonality of John Cage or the hypnotic contemplation of Philip Glass whereas it is unimaginable that a film such as 2001 could possibly benefit from a Lalo Schifrin or Henry Mancini pop treatment.

Of course any discussion of film music (even one as cursory as this) cannot conclude without at least some mention of Jerry Goldsmith. Goldsmith is arguably the most prolific and important of all film composers. His CV goes on and on as do his innovations and contribution to the craft. His influence is immeasurable and the film composer cannot escape his shadow.

 

Recording in General

I have been in love with recording since around 1980 when I started working as a tape operator in a 16-track recording studio. Since then I have always studied the crafts of songwriting and recording. Over the years I have collected tons of gear but over the last twenty years or so I have focused on great sounding gear, some vintage, some new. Part of the rationale for collecting old gear is nostalgia but some of the old stuff has magic and continues to represent the sonic state of the art. To be fair, and not to lionize all things old, there was plenty of junky gear back then which sounded awful (anyone remember Sound Workshop?), most of which has completely disappeared over time. Some gear is quite new or ‘NOS’ based on older designs such as the Manley ELOP and Portico. The bottom line for me is if it sounds great it doesn’t matter where it comes from or how old it is.

(Speaking of Portico, I believe it is destined for ‘legendary’ status. In many cases the 5032 is more usable than the 1073 and I believe it will develop the cachet now reserved for the 1073.) Speaking of legendary, check out the Tube Trap section below.

I am always interested in doing sessions with people who are committed to the craft. This usually means old-timers like me who come from an analog studio background and like to spend time and energy on performance, sound quality, production, and arrangement without rushing. It is true that this can be more expensive than other approaches but it is, in my opinion, certainly the most satisfying way to make a record. I prefer to collaborate on production and arrangement, mix old with new and patiently build up a record.

I recently retired my PARIS rig after many years of long and faithful service. My current rig is built around Cubase 7.5.1 and an Aurora Lynx converter. Cubase is extremely feature-rich and reasonably stable. As with every DAW it has its challenges but generally I am happy with it. There are some things I would like to see changed such as not resetting all the audio busses when the converters are offline and more consistency in the MIDI editor. The outboard CMC controllers are effective and I love their modularity. I am running six of them – Three fader modules, a transport, channel and AI module. Kudos to Steinberg for having delivered a truly modular controller solution which actually works (the photo only shows three of the controllers – the FDs were added later).

The control room is carefully designed (at least in terms of working within the framework of what is permissible given the limited physical space) and equipped with ASC Tube Traps, custom quad diffusers and Helmholtz resonators. I monitor through three systems – JBL 4430s, Yamaha NS-10s and Urei 809′s. The Ureis and JBLs have been re-coned and I have re-stuffed the crossovers with better caps. This provides a good range of options, especially in terms of ensuring mixes translate to the real-world. I have a pair of original Mackie HR 824s sitting on top of the 809s. I am not using them at the moment but they still serve a useful purpose – they extend the baffle for the JBLs and Ureis and reduce enclosure diffraction considerably thus improving low-end response.

The JBLs are powered by a Bryston 4B, the NS-10s a Bryston 3B, and the Ureis a Carver C500 lovingly restored and optimized by my good friend Nick Soudas (Nick is one of the best amp artists in the world IMO). Nick has also refurbished two other Phase Linear 400s which I use from time to time with the larger monitors.

I added some ASC 16″ and 13″ full rounds to the existing arsenal last year and the room is sounding great. The sweet spot is incredibly wide thanks to both the treatment and the 4430’s biradial horns and I encourage you to stop by and listen to your mixes.

A Word About ASC Tube Traps…

I am an acoustics freak. For longer than I can remember I have been mesmerized by the physics of sound sloshing around in rooms. I have dabbled in developing my own solutions and products and have a fairly rich understanding of the dynamics. But nothing, and I mean nothing, compared to what the folks at ASC (Acoustic Sciences) know. The lead physicist/engineer at ASC is Art Noxon. I have known Art for almost twenty years and he is truly plugged into the deepest reaches of the acoustics cosmos. I have the good fortune of working with some great electrical and software engineers in my day job so I know extreme engineering when I see it. Art is one of those ‘it’ guys whose ideas and intuition result in products which bear themselves out when applying the most rigorous physical measurements available. What is so amazing is that his ideas come seemingly instantaneously and I have yet to come across a situation where the idea did not equate to a brilliant product. If this all sounds gushy I do not apologize. Art’s products are, simply, the best acoustical treatments ever made. Yes, EVER made. I have had the good fortune of experiencing scores of great-sounding studios built by designers such as Tom Hidley and can state, unequivocally, that Art’s rooms sound as good if not better and cost about a million dollars less.

The Tube Trap is probably ASC’s best-known product and the things are simply magical. I defy anyone to find a review of Tube Traps less than glowing. Bad reviews don’t exist because they stand alongside the great and protean audio products of our time. The serious audio community, known for its biases and factional sectarianism, agrees. I will put my control room up against any other, anywhere and I have ASC to thank. Imaging, clarity and a true, discernible fast and tight bottom are the rewards. Art – you are a genius.  Chris – you are and have been a great friend. Thanks to you both.

If you are looking for acoustical solutions, just call ASC.

Check out their site, salivate, imagine, dream and see if you can hold yourself back. I doubt it. If you don’t believe me just ask Bruce Swedien.

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Gear List

Cubase 7.5.1

Avid Artist Mix, Control and Transport

3 x CMC FD Controller

1 x CMC TP Conroller

1 x CMC CH Controller

1 x CMC AI Conroller

Aurora16 Channel 192 Converters

2 x Neve Portico 5033 EQ

2 x Neve Portico 5043 Compressors

2 x Neve Portico 5032 Mic Preamps

Manley ELOP

3 x Neve 1272

2 x Neve 1073

2 x Sytek MPX-4A Mic Preamps

Central Station

Yamaha SPX 900

TCE M-One

1 x Dolby A NR

Proteus 2000

Roland Vintage Keys

2 x Phase Linear 400

1 x Carver C500

1 x Bryston 3B

1 x Bryston 4B

2 x JBL 4430

2 x Urei 809

2 x Yamaha NS-10

Roland Alpha Juno

Nord Rack 2X

Mics

1 x Neumann U87 (circa 1984)

2 x Neumann TLM103

2 x Neumann KM 184

1 x AKG D112

1 x AKG C-1000s

1 x Sennheiser MD 421

Lots of 57s and 58s

 

 

For those using Cubase 7xx and the Avid Artist Series controllers I have compiled a (very) informal catalog of  issues/tips/tricks. These have been culled from the Cubase user forum.

 

 

 

Hello, I need help to do the Running Cubase 7.5, adapter Eucon, Euphonix MC Control V2 year 2011, Euphonix Transport.

I work on Windows 7 64 bit platform,

When I select from “Settings Device” EUCON, a window appears that says “The available EuCon adapter is incompatible with this application.”

 

I have tried to solve the problem by downloading the adapter from My Stemberg with the license, I installed the EuCon software, which I downloaded from the Avid website, version 3.1 win 64 bit (not working), then I tried with the version 2.7 win 64 bit (does not work).

 

What can I do?

thanks

 

Hello,

 

Do you have the EuCon license installed on your Steinberg Key?

 

You have to log into your MySteinberg account an register your Euphonix/AVID hardware serial numbers. Once you have done that… Steinberg will send you an email with the proper code to enter into theELicenserControlCenter, which will install the EuCon license onto your Steinberg Key!

 

I’m using Eucontrol ver. 3.01, as opposed to 3.1, and all is working fine here!

 

 

Re: Win7 64 bit Euphonix MC Control, Mc transport, Cubase 7

 

Hi… Cubase 7.5 has an installation option for the latest Eucon adapter. Re-run your Cubase 7.5 installer and you should see it on the menu.

 

 

 

Avid Artist Mix and Control – First Real Session

 

Just finished my first genuine session with my new Avid Mix and Control surfaces. What a revelation… They worked beautifully… The ergonomics are damn near perfect (at least for me). No glitches/issues… Perfect. After years of having worked without flying faders (or any real faders for that matter) the Avid surfaces helped me remember how great it is to use conventional old school interfaces. Besides the Mix, the Control is superb. I did 90% of what I usually do in the UI using the Control and it felt natural, organic and FAST.

 

I was using the CMCs before the Avid stuff and they are really good although I could never get comfortable with the FDs – The absence of a scribble pad and the ribbons never felt right to me.

 

I can’t say enough about the Avid gear. Steinberg’s Eucon implementation is terrific too. The integration is so deep and solid I cannot imagine a more complete interface. It is actually somewhat funny (ironic?) that Cubase 7.5.1 works perfectly with the controllers yet when you go to the Avid forum general rancour abounds about how poorly Eucon 3.1 works with PT11.

 

I know this is a gushy post but, damn, I can’t help myself… Had to share the news…

 

Now, back to the real faders!

 

 

Re: Avid Artist Mix and Control – First Real Session

 

Hi, nice to see that you are happy with the devices. I am using them as well and they are indeed the best Controllers I had so far.

 

Some questions:

 

Which Version of EUCON do you use? 2.7.1? 3.1?

Does the Connection always work? If yes, please describe your Setup – especially how the Controllers are connected to your net.

 

Does the channel visibility on the Artist Mix and Artist control follow the visibility in the cubase mixconsole?

If yes, how did you accomplish this? (It does not seem to work for a lot of users, including myself).

 

Finally I would be more than happy to get tipps and tricks – sometimes we conincidently find functionality.

 

One open question from my side is: Can we control Vstis (or Vsti QCs!) of instruments in the Instrument Rack with the EUCON Controllers?

 

 

Re: Avid Artist Mix and Control – First Real Session

 

cpechet1 wrote:

Just finished my first genuine session with my new Avid Mix and Control surfaces. What a revelation… They worked beautifully…

 

 

Hi

 

Same gear here – Problems with EUCON 3.1, steped back to EUCON 2.7.1, just 4 faders banking instead of 8 (with EUCON 3.1), but more stable within the operation.

Doing almost every recording and editing command using the AVID Artist Control. Very fast action possible compared with the mouse moving all over the screen  ;)

 

Support the statement from Ernst – there are many users keen to exchange experience with others.

There is an AVID forum as well.

http://duc.avid.com/forumdisplay.php?f=62

 

 

Cheers

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Re: Avid Artist Mix and Control – First Real Session

 

Hi… My setup uses Eucon 3.1… Firmware 1.5.2 (MC MIX) and 1.3.5 (MC Control). Hidden tracks render for me on the Mix/Control so I cannot say that works in my setup. I don’t use the hidden tracks feature so its not an issue for me. Fader banking works as advertised though… No issues there.

 

VSTi editing

 

I do this by holding the input/Insert button for about three seconds. This puts the Mix into VSTi edit mode where I can edit params which spill across the OLED displays and navigate forward/backward using the CFG PAGE keys.

 

To exit VSTi editing I hit the input/Insert button again (just a quick tap – no three second push is required here) which puts me into insert select mode where I can scroll through inserts using the CFG PAGE keys. To activate the insert I press the rotary encoder on the channel I want to edit (so if you have, say, four tracks, go to the channel you want to edit and press the rotary encoder on that channel and it will open up the plugin). Once open all the rotary keys spill across the Mix and you can edit the plugin. To finish editing I hit the input/Insert button again. I have Eucon configured to show the plugin when the rotary encoder is pressed and hide the plugin on exit.

 

In terms of using the Control I have customized the first couple of softkey pages to use the features I use most frequently and that has been a great time saver.

 

If I come across new information I will post it

 

Re: Avid Artist Mix and Control – First Real Session

 

I am also an AC user. Love it! I am in the process of moving from Logic to Cubase and have been customizing my AC for Cubase over the past few days.

 

I can not seem to find any way to make a take on a lane active without using the comp tool. I can select a take with arrows keys etc, but I can not make it the currently active take without using the mouse. And since I can’t find a way to accomplish this with the keyboard, I can’t program the AC to do this.

 

 

Re: Avid Artist Mix and Control – First Real Session

 

Now THAT’s a good question… I took a look around preferences and so on and could not think of a way to macro or key-command that one… I don’t use comp very much so please forgive this stupid question but… Does Cubase not automatically activate the last lane to have been recorded during comp?

 

Re: Avid Artist Mix and Control – First Real Session

 

HI,

 

it is nice to find People who also use EUCON / the Artist series.

 

my MAJOR Problem currently still is that even with Version 3.1. cubase does not find the Controllers (Or the eucon sercie does not) . After freshly installing 3.1 the FIRST TIME, everything works. WHen I quit cubase then and restart the PC , Switch on the Artist Controllers – they are recognized by eucon but not in cubase.

 

Does anyone have a clue what could be the reason? It only works with Version 2.7.1.

 

 

Re: Avid Artist Mix and Control – First Real Session

 

 

Elien wrote:

HI,

 

it is nice to find People who also use EUCON / the Artist series.

 

my MAJOR Problem currently still is that even with Version 3.1. cubase does not find the Controllers (Or the eucon sercie does not) . After freshly installing 3.1 the FIRST TIME, everything works. WHen I quit cubase then and restart the PC , Switch on the Artist Controllers – they are recognized by eucon but not in cubase.

 

Does anyone have a clue what could be the reason? It only works with Version 2.7.1.

 

 

I don’t know the reason, but this happens to me once in a while with 3.1, both with Cubase and Nuendo.

When Cubase does not recognize Eucon, open the device menu, remove Eucon from the device list, then add it again, then it’s recognized.

 

Re: Avid Artist Mix and Control – First Real Session

 

I think the Artist controllers are just fantastic. Eucon and the macro system of cubase makes these very powerful controllers.

Eucon has its issues, but that is just a minor annoyance compared to the benefit of using them.

 

Re: Avid Artist Mix and Control – First Real Session

 

Elien wrote:

HI,

 

 

the FIRST TIME, everything works. WHen I quit cubase then and restart the PC , Switch on the Artist Controllers – they are recognized by eucon but not in cubase.

 

 

 

 

When this happens, what application/workstation does the Control think it is addressing when cubase is launched? Also, what happens when you launch the Eucon configuration utility when cubase is running? Do the softkeys show the default configuration? Does anything happen when you click <auto assigned> on the ‘assignment’ tab?

 

Re: Avid Artist Mix and Control – First Real Session

 

I love the Artist Control and it works like a dream, except for me it makes Cubase hang

 

Re: Avid Artist Mix and Control – First Real Session

 

Ian s wrote:

I love the Artist Control and it works like a dream, except for me it makes Cubase hang on exit, every time. To be fair I haven’t tinkered to redress the issue yet…..

 

 

Hi Ian,

 

Are you sure that the Artist Control is responsible for Cubase Crashing on exit?

 

I don’t mean to discount your findings, but wish to get a better understanding if your issue is the same as mine and others, which appers to be more related to EuCon (AVID EuControl /Steinberg EuCon Adapter) than the Control surface itself.

 

I do believe that some are having a “Hang” issue and /or a “Crash” issue that may or may not be related!

 

I’m just trying to pin down if your issue is the same!

 

And to the OP, I have not had a situation where Cubase has stopped recognizing the controllers, but I have heard of others that have, and the remedy seemed to be to trash the Cubase preferences ( Default.xml and maybe others)… I know… crazy, but there it is!

 

If you are able to get Cubase to recognize the controller(s) after a EuCon adapter re-initialization as Johngar suggests, then it makes sense to me that something is missing during the startup of Cubase, which also points to the Default.xml maybe being possibly corrupted! Follow these STEPS to rebuild it!

 

 

Re: Avid Artist Mix and Control – First Real Session

 

Sorry, I didn’t mean to give the impression it was the Artist at fault here – I believe it’s the Eucon “hanging” issue you mention that I experience, which I am also aware is not unique to me. I just haven’t had the time to fully troubleshoot it yet…

 

Re: Avid Artist Mix and Control – First Real Session

 

Re: Avid Artist Mix and Control – First Real Session

 

 

Hi Cpechet1 :)

 

Thanks for your questions – I will try to answer them tonight when I am in front of my studiotable. The remarkable Thing is that after fresh install of Eucon 3.1. the first cubase session works without Problems. Quitting cubase then does nothing remarkable or problematic. the next time I start cubase it does not find the Controllers.

 

But as I said: I will post the detailled Situation answering your questions in the evening.

 

Re: Avid Artist Mix and Control – First Real Session

 

Hi, so now I am in front of my studiotable.

 

I did the following:

 

Uninstall Eucon 2.7.1

Trash Cubase Preferences

Install Eucon 3.1

Restart Computer

Switch on McMix and Mccontrol.

Started cubase, activated Eucon.

Everythin works FINE. Eucon Application says “Cubase 7.5 on Studio7″ (Studio7 is the Workstation Name)

 

Now: When I quit cubase and restart it – everything is fine.

When I quit cubase, Switch off the Controllers, Switch the Controllers back on and start cubase – it does NOT work (Eucon Panel says “Cubase 7.5. on” (no Workstation Name, even though it is connected to Studio 7)

 

The only way to make it work again is to restart the Computer, Switch on the mccontrol and mcmix and then start cubase.

 

Strange, but workable.

 

Re: Avid Artist Mix and Control – First Real Session

 

Hi… Instead of restarting try logging off and on again… This will restart the eucon service…

Re: Avid Artist Mix and Control – First Real Session

 

I have eucon 3.1 on mavericks and it stops nuendo from being able to quit.

 

 

Re: Avid Artist Mix and Control – First Real Session

 

MoPro wrote:

Ian s wrote:

Are you sure that the Artist Control is responsible for Cubase Crashing on exit?

 

 

Hi

 

Well, I’m pretty sure, that the EUCON does not quit the service with Cubase , if you close Cubase.

(The touchscreen icons remain with Cubase intead of going to blanc)

 

I’m not the IT crack, therefore I don’t have a clue what’s going on, but I can state, that this behaviour started with Cubase v7.0.6. Before it was fine.

 

During the sessions (Cubase and EUCON running) no issues with the functionality.

If I close Cubase, one time it appears a faultmessage, next time bluescreen.

 

The only solution should be never to close Cubase again :roll:

 

Just wait for an update of the EUCON driver – probably this will help… ;)

 

 

Re: Avid Artist Mix and Control – First Real Session

 

 

Crash on exit here in Cubase and Nuendo. I’m very sure about it because when I don’t use it, it does not crash.

 

 

Re: Avid Artist Mix and Control – First Real Session

 

I resently alter my networksettings by changing my old router with a newer switch (Netgear RP614 V3). Now, my Fritzbox 7330 works as a DHCP and not my old router and the exit bug is gone. I also use the Microsoft Compatibility Toolkit to change my UAC for the Cubase.exe and let it ‘run as invoker’. Maybe the Windows here user can try that. For me, it fixes the bug.

 

Re: Avid Artist Mix and Control – First Real Session

 

Hi all,

 

I do not have crashes on Exit with cubase since I start it with Administrator privileges.

But still the Situation is that stopping cubase and restarting it means that it does not connect again to the Eucon Devices. When I open the eucon-window then I see “Cubase 7 on” and no Workstationname (when everything works it says “Cubase 7 on Studio7″). Somehow cubase is not able to reconnect to the eucon devices after it has aleady done so.

I think that the “disconnection” does not work properly and EUCON still thinks it is connected to the “originally startet” cubase instance.

 

Re: Avid Artist Mix and Control – First Real Session

 

When you exit Cubase (after a successful Eucon session) and then run the Eucon app, do you see the control surfaces in the ‘My Surfaces’ area on the ‘Surfaces’ tab?

 

Re: Avid Artist Mix and Control – First Real Session

 

 

Hi you, oh yes, I do. I also see the Workstation on the Workstations tab. I found that when I Exit cubase, leaving the Controllers on the Display on the mccontrol did not swith to “wecome to the Artist series” in the Display. I disabled the Firewall and now it works.

 

The only Thing that still does not work is to Switch the Controllers of and start them from scratch. To recognize them correctly from this Point on a restart is necessary (Switch users does not help)

 

Re: Avid Artist Mix and Control – First Real Session

 

Elien wrote:

The only Thing that still does not work is to Switch the Controllers of and start them from scratch. To recognize them correctly from this Point on a restart is necessary (Switch users does not help)

 

 

 

 

Hi… Try ‘Log Off’ instead of ‘Switch User’… This kills and restarts the Eucon service…

 

 

Avid Artist Mix and Control – First Real Session

 

 

Hi – thank youcpechet1 for your Patience!

 

I also tried “logoff”, but it does not cure the issue. Well, this is a Situation with which I can live! The Controllers work with cubase and I can start and stop cubase . As Long as I leave the Controllers switched on no restart is necessary.

 

I think all this has something to do with the Network topology … this is just an assumption, but well. I dont want to investigate further, since I have a reasonable solution now.

 

Re: Avid Artist Mix and Control – First Real Session

 

Thanks Ernst… Glad things are working reasonably well !!

 

Re: Avid Artist Mix and Control – First Real Session

 

Frankly, I’m surprised Avid still provides competing DAW support for their new “Pro Tools controller” at all…

 

Re: Avid Artist Mix and Control – First Real Session

 

I think its very smart… In multi-room setups (or even single-room setups) where there are multiple DAWs from various providers Avid wants all of them to be able to use the one or more S6 surfaces the facility owns. Even when there are multiple DAWS running in the ‘main room’ Eucon takes over the focused application so switching between PT and, say, Cubase is completely seamless as far as the S6 (or Artist) is concerned. Moreover, I think Avid realizes that high-performance native DAW software is now as good as PT so they want to focus on owning the market for deeply-integrated high-end surfaces which can interact with as many competitive DAW platforms as possible. This will, for example, induce Nuendo shops to consider an S6 rather than a Nuage controller. I am just guessing but I imagine margins on the S6 series are quite high (retail starts at around 20k USD for a basic S6) so it is profitable to ship as many of them as possible to as many DAW platforms as possible. I would not be surprised to see more Eucon enabled surfaces coming from Avid which can cover all ranges of the market including entry level. By continuing support for Eucon Avid may eventually kill Mackie and own the surface market. Avid is past the point where it believes it can kill off the DAW competition but it still believes it can kill off the surface competition.

 

Off topic… Having spent quite a bit of time on the Avid Artist board, it seems that Steinberg’s Eucon integration is far superior to Avid’s own integration – Lots of very unhappy PT 11 users outs there… Very few unhappy Cubase users…

 

Eucon is a terrific technology and I believe it will become the standard

 

Re: Avid Artist Mix and Control – First Real Session

 

cpechet1 wrote:

Eucon is a terrific technology and I believe it will become the standard

 

 

Hi

 

Well, there are some signs out there, that nobody really take care of this protocol :(

AVID is just interested in the proper integration of PT and Steinberg does not really take care of it, because they have their own controllers to support.

 

I’m a big fan of the Artist Series. Never saw something comparable out in the market. The endless flexibility in operation is just fantastic.

 

Hope for further adaptations and support from AVID and Steinberg ;)

 

 

Re: Avid Artist Mix and Control – First Real Session

 

 

Hi… I agree the controllers are the best out there, especially for the money… In terms of overall protocol support I checked the Artist download section and Avid has released ten versions of Eucon since 2009 which is pretty good… Its about two updates per year. From what I can tell Steinberg has provided Eucon updates with each major Cubase release since 5.x so it appears that Eucon is getting its fair share of attention from both sides. I am feeling pretty confident the relationship will continue… At least I hope so…

 

Re: Avid Artist Mix and Control – First Real Session

 

cpechet1 wrote:

Hi… I agree the controllers are the best out there

 

 

Unfortunately, unlike good ol’ fashioned analog equipment of days past, digital hardware is only as good as it’s latest driver/software support. That Eucon support needs to be honored by two separate, competing (corporate) entities would make me very hesitant of spending that amount of cash.

 

Re: Avid Artist Mix and Control – First Real Session

 

jpgtr wrote:

That Eucon support needs to be honored by two separate, competing (corporate) entities would make me very hesitant of spending that amount of cash.

 

 

Yea… I think it’s a situation where you have to use them to really appreciate their worth!  ;)

 

I’ll admit that EuControl of late has issues, but even with the issues…the controllers are very useful in the studio production process.

 

Even a casual user might not really understand how powerful these units are until they incorporate them into their work flow for a while, and actually see how deeply integrated and flexible these units are!

 

Does the software behavior need improvement… “YES”! Do I regret making the investment ” No”, not by a long shot!

 

Re: Avid Artist Mix and Control – First Real Session

 

 

These observations raise an interesting question: I wonder how many cubase users have Avid Artist controllers? My hope would be that there are enough in the community to warrant ongoing support by both sides. I suppose the same question should be asked of Logic users… It seems to me that as long as Logic supports Eucon Steinberg must too (and counter-wise).

 

 

Re: Avid Artist Mix and Control – First Real Session

 

I have been musing about jpgtr’s comments… After having used these things for a month or so now I can’t believe how much better my overall workflow is and how hard they would be to give up (unless, of course, something much better came along…)

 

If it turned out that Steinberg and Avid parted ways on Eucon I think I would probably switch to PT. I would certainly miss cubase and all its great stuff but I would miss the surfaces more. They have completely changed my world… After years of mouse/keyboard I had forgotten how great the analog desk experience was and I don’t think I would ever want to give that up. The CMCs are OK but compared to the Avid stuff they are marginal. Besides the ‘analog-ish’ components the touchscreen on the Control has almost completely replaced the mouse for me. Hard to give that up…

Re: Avid Artist Mix and Control – First Real Session

 

cpechet1 wrote:

If it turned out that Steinberg and Avid parted ways on Eucon I think I would probably switch to PT.

 

 

They have been working pretty hard over at the Reaper forum on a EuCon adapter, and they have been asking for a lot of user input! I haven’t been following the progress of late, but the fact that they are trying says a lot about their resolve!

 

I have Reaper, but don’t use it a lot… shame on me! I really have to stop having such a narrow focus about what’s available!

 

Just Sayin’

 

Re: Avid Artist Mix and Control – First Real Session

 

MoPro wrote:

 

They have been working pretty hard over at the Reaper forum on a EuCon adapter, and they have been asking for a lot of user input! I haven’t been following the progress of late, but the fact that they are trying says a lot about their resolve!

 

 

 

Makes sense… This is why I believe every product that has already signed up with Eucon will most likely continue to support it… Who knows? Avid may decide to screw third-party Eucon contributors and start charging a licensing fee to end users or whatever. But even if that happens its money well spent (from my perspective anyhow).

 

I should probably give Reaper a try too… Like you say… spread a little wing…

 

 

 

 

 

I just installed Avid Artist MC and Artist Mix controllers and I cannot seem to make the jog wheel behave in the same way as the CMC AI jog wheel. Has anyone had any success getting this to work? I have searched the forums and the net generally but either I do not understand the suggestions or the recommendations don’t work (probably because I don’t understand what is being said). The Eucon editor purportedly enables Cubase key commands to be assigned to the Avid hardware but I do not understand the ‘TU Wheel’ commands like ‘Shuttle Zone 0’ or ‘Transition 0 to 1’ and so on. I have searched high and low for a Steinberg support document for its Eucon implementation but no luck…

 

I have tried this with various release levels of Eucon ranging from 2.7 to 3.1

 

Anyhow, if anyone has figured this out please help this old ignoramus out…

 

Thanks

 

Re: Avid Artist MC

 

cpechet1 wrote:

Anyhow, if anyone has figured this out please help this old ignoramus out…

 

Thanks

 

 

I can try…

 

I assume by “Artist MC” you mean Artist Control? I don’t own a CMC Ai unit, so I have no idea how that unit’s jog function behaves.

 

It would help me understand your problem if you would just state what you are trying to get the jog wheel on the Artist Control to do!

 

The ‘TU (Transport Unit) Wheel’ commands pertain to the Artist Transport specifically… those commands have to do with where the shuttle speed transitions (Slow, Slower, Slowest, or Fast, Faster, Fastest) happen as you advance the Artist Transport more backward, or forward respectively.

 

There is more information on these commands in the Artist Transport, and Artist Control manuals from the AVID Artist Series Support page!

The AVID DUC (forum) also has some good information how to setup the Artist Units!

 

In the meantime… please explain exactly what you are trying to do, and I’ll try to help!

 

Re: Avid Artist MC

 

Thanks for responding. The AI Jog feature scrolls at a fixed speed irrespective of the project window zoom level. This makes it easy to move quickly from one spot in a track to another using a minimal horizontal zoom value and also enables extremely detailed cursor movements at high horizontal zoom levels.

 

In the meantime I am using the CMC AI for jogging and leaving the Control jog wheel set for horizontal zooming which appears to be working well.

 

Re: Avid Artist MC

Ah! I think I know what you mean!

 

When I jog on the Control… It tends to be jumpy and less precise, especially when zoomed in tight! It seems as if it is sending the commands at a lower resolution!

 

I also have an Artist Transport, which doesn’t do that… It is completely smooth (higher resolution) when I jog, and is also very precise.

 

I tried the Artist Control wheel sensitivity adjustment in EuControl, but that just makes you have to move the wheel more clicks (that detented wheel sucks!) before it actually registers the same jog distance.

 

It sounds like you have a good workaround!

 

Like I said earlier… the Artist Transport Is completely smooth, so it isn’t a Cubase problem.

 

It could be that the Control sends a different EuCon jog command than the Transport does, but I don’t know that for sure, or even if that can be changed if necessary.

 

You should surely post this question over at the AVID forum, someone there is sure to help!

 

AVID Artist Series Support Forum!

 

Re: Avid Artist MC

 

Thanks again for responding. I agree that the jog command sent by Control is different from the CMC (and I assume Artist Transport). The CMC jog wheel does not illuminate the jog icon in the transport bar but Control does. I tried to sift through key commands to find the jog command that matches the AI controller and could not so perhaps its under the covers somewhere. In any event thanks for the assistance, greatly appreciated!

 

Re: Avid Artist MC

 

 

Thanks again for responding.

 

 

You are very welcome!

 

Let us know if you find a solution!

 

 

 

Re: Avid Artist MC

 

 

Will do… Thanks!

 

Casey

 

Re: Avid Artist MC

 

There is no current capability to edit the functionality of the Jog wheel in Artist Control, only Artist Transport.

I can certainly live with using the CMC AI controller so its not that big a deal. I have to say I am incredibly impressed with Eucon – it appears to harvest most if not all of Cubase’s menu features and displays them over several pages on the Control’s surface display. Fader response is great and I look forward to deeper diving with plugin editing.

 

I hope Avid continues to develop the protocol (seems they will given the new ‘S’ series desks use Eucon) and I certainly hope Steinberg will continue to support it.

 

Re: Avid Artist MC

 

cpechet1 wrote:

There is no current capability to edit the functionality of the Jog wheel in Artist Control, only Artist Transport.

 

Actually there is.

You create a soft key assignment so then when it is pushed, the Artist Control Jog wheel will take on the function you assign to it, until it is pushed again.

You go to Eucontrol and go to the “softkey” tab, there you will find a drop down window with the different devices that you can program.

Select TU Wheel, (I know you don’t own it, but that does not matter)

Double click the “Jog” button.

A window pops up, at the top select “Add” ,a window pops up to name your new custom command.

After you name it, you are left with a screen that has the drop down menu for “Turn Jog Right” and “Turn Jog Left”

So what you need to do in Cubase is, assign a keyboard keycommand to what you want the jog wheel to do when you turn right and left, this can be anything, in your case JOG. This will give you alittle better resolution that the default Eucon JOG rate.

Now on this screen under Command drop down menu, select “Key” and enter the Cubase Keycommand you want to trigger.

Do the same for the “Turn Jog Left”.

now close that window

Back on the “softkeys” tab select “surface” or “touchscreen” depending on where you want to put the button to “activate” the special jog function.

after selecting a location

Select the “command” to program to that softkey

THIS IS THE IMPORTANT PART in the command drop down menu, your going to select “wheel”

then in the Wheel drop down menu on the right select the icon that look like an MC Control

and select “Jog”

under that in the “function” drop down menu, Select you custom jog function you named.

now when you hit that softkey, the jog wheel will take on that function that you programmed until you hit that softkey again to turn it off.

 

You can put ANY key command on the Jog wheel this way. For example, for Internet Explorer, I programmed Forward and Back on the Jog wheel.

good luck.

 

Re: Avid Artist MC

 

Thanks so much… I’ll give this a try.

 

Re: Avid Artist MC

 

 

Hi… I could not make this work as I could not find the correct EUCON command to enable the Jog wheel to act in the same way as the CMC AI controller in ‘Jog’ mode. In any event its not a big deal as I am quite happy to use the AI for scrolling. In fact its actually better because I can use the Control wheel for vertical and horizontal scrolling and the AI for timeline.

 

All together I am absolutely thrilled with the Control and Mix surfaces… Perfect for my needs and no EUCON glitches.

 

 

I need help with a Macro

 

On the Artist Mix, there’s an insert button on the leftt side that pulls up the complete menu for the plugs to be inserted. There is no such button on the MC Control. Instead you have to go through a series of procedures:

1) Select Channel

2) Press the Insert button

3) Press both page buttons at the same time to enter config mode

4) Press insert again to pull up the menu

 

WTH? Why can’t I just have an insert button, like the one on the Mix Module?!!?

 

Since I don’t have the option, I’m trying to right a one touch macro that will achieve the same goal. Can anyon tell me which Eucon Commands in which order, I’ll need to get a ONE BUTTON OPTION to open the insert menu the same way you cn do this on the Artist Mix?

 

Re: I need help with a Macro

 

Anybody?

 

Re: I need help with a Macro

 

Well for me, on the artist Mix, the process is the same as the MC Control to get to the plugin list

on the Mix:

select channel

hit insert button

press both config buttons

hit the top knob to select what slot to insert the plugin

Then the list shows up in the Mix window where you can page through the plugins to select.

its the same for the MC.

How are you doing all that with one button press on the mix?

 

Re: I need help with a Macro

 

 

johngar wrote:

Well for me, on the artist Mix, the process is the same as the MC Control to get to the plugin list

on the Mix:

select channel

hit insert button

press both config buttons

hit the top knob to select what slot to insert the plugin

Then the list shows up in the Mix window where you can page through the plugins to select.

its the same for the MC.

How are you doing all that with one button press on the mix?

 

 

 

I’m not. I don’t own the Mix. I was basing my statement on a Euphonix Tutorial I downloaded. The guy only pressed the insert button and then started scrolling thru the menu. CLEARLY THEY LEFT SOME STEPS OUT.  :oops: So, thanks for clearing that up. Why is it that ONLY the big dollar controllers (MC Pro/Tango/id, etc.) offer this feature?

 

 

 

7.5 and Hidden tracks in Eucon

 

 

:?: Question on version 7.5: the problem of hidden tracks that do not hide in the Avid Artist Mix (Euphonix) – and I guess in all EuCon devices – is it fixed?

Re: 7.5 and Hidden tracks in Eucon

 

No.

 

Re: 7.5 and Hidden tracks in Eucon

 

yes, it doesn’t hide… :(

 

Re: 7.5 and Hidden tracks in Eucon

 

Yes, very annoying. Hidden tracks are still shown on Artist series devices.

 

:(

 

 

Re: 7.5 and Hidden tracks in Eucon

 

Any news concerning an update for the eucon adapter in cubase 7.5 in the near future? It would be very nice to have accsess to the dynamic section in the mixer for example. And of course the hidden track feature is a must have…in Sequoia 12 this feature is already available…i hope steinberg will continue to support these controllers.

 

Re: 7.5 and Hidden tracks in Eucon

 

Tomess wrote:

Any news concerning an update for the eucon adapter in cubase 7.5 in the near future? It would be very nice to have accsess to the dynamic section in the mixer for example. And of course the hidden track feature is a must have…in Sequoia 12 this feature is already available…i hope steinberg will continue to support these controllers.

 

 

In Artist Mix:

 

- Select a channel

- Select Dyn (Shift + Dyn/EQ Button) – Now you see the first dyn plugin

- Push Flip/Channel button, now you can see all the dynamic processors in the channel

 

If you want to see channel Strip:

 

- Hold Shift Key + Input/Inserts Button – Now you see the first Channel Strip Module

- Push Flip/Channel Button – Now you see all Channel Strips Modules

 

I hope this helps you!

 

Re: 7.5 and Hidden tracks in Eucon

 

cmbourget wrote:

:?: Question on version 7.5: the problem of hidden tracks that do not hide in the Avid Artist Mix (Euphonix) – and I guess in all EuCon devices – is it fixed?

 

 

 

Hi there!  :)

 

You can try this and see if that fix it.

 

 

1. Got to the “mix console”.

 

2. In the top Right of the “mixer” you see a arrow.

 

3. Left “click” and in the bottom of the MENU you see “Link MixConsoles”

 

4. Activate all “mark” or unmark and “mark” again. (they should be marked)

 

5. Done

 

 

If it works as attended to do you will see that the Cubase 7.5 MIXER and AVID Eucon hardware’s sync now.

Hidden tracks stay hidden and also banking thru tracks with help of the hardware controller stays in sync with Cubase 7 mixer view.

 

 

 

Best Regards

 

Re: 7.5 and Hidden tracks in Eucon

 

Hi everybody, thanks for your replies!

 

@ maaaquemeseyo

 

I’m already aware of getting accsess to the channelstrip of each channel with the controllsurface. The problem is, that some features are not supported rightnow: you can alter the channel eq via the artist mix, but you have no access to some new channlefeatures like the build in compressor or the saturator in the strip menu (which has no button on the controllsurface of the artis mix, i know  ;) ) and i would like to enter them via eucon. Maybe there is a way, but im not a programmer, so i don’t have a clue how hard it is to implement. :P

 

For example: if you collaps all your mixstructur above the faders you can expand them by pressing the representive button on the controllsurface like

 

Input (surface) = ‘Pre’ (Mixer),

Inserts (Surface) = Inserts (Mixer),

EQ (Surface) = Eq (Mixer),

Dyn (Surface) = NOT CONNECTED…that’s what i ment.

 

I also noticed, that you can expand ‘Pre’ (Mixer) with Input AND Mix (both Surface). But you can’t collaps them afterwards, it stays expanded until you collaps it with the mouse. Which is a bit annoying. it would be nice to toggle it via Artis Mix just for the overview.

 

In the Channel Inspector, it behaves a little different. You can collapse your expanded structur just by pressing the not supported button (like Mix on the Surface). Group also collapses it, beause it’s visible in the main overview where the routinge takes place etc.

 

@ Freddy H

 

I tried that, but it says ‘no MixConsole Window to Link’ in brackets. Did i miss something? I only use one MixConsolewindow…

 

 

Thanks,

 

Re: 7.5 and Hidden tracks in Eucon

 

Tomess wrote:

 

but you have no access to some new channlefeatures like the build in compressor or the saturator in the strip menu (which has no button on the controllsurface of the artis mix, i know  ;) ) and i would like to enter them via eucon. Maybe there is a way, but im not a programmer, so i don’t have a clue how hard it is to implement. :P

 

 

 

Hi, Tomess, the fact is that actually you CAN access to the strip menu (to the building compressor or the saturator)

 

Once you select a channel you have to:

 

In the Artis Mix surface:

 

- Keep Shift button pressed

- While you keep your Shift button pressed, press the Input/Insert button for about 3 seconds.

- Release Input/Insert Button, after that release the Shift button

 

Voilá, your in the Strip Menu (You’ll see the Gate of the strip)

 

Now, if you press Flip/Chan (without Shift) you’ll see in the display, the Gate, Comp, EQ, Trans, Sat y Limit (in the display)

After that if you press the two config buttons you’ll access to the strip config menu and you can load by example magneto in the sat strip.

 

Hope I can help you!  ;)

 

 

BTW if you want to access to Quick Controls all you have to do is:

 

- Keep pressed DYN/EQ button for about 3 seconds. When you release it you’ll access to the Quick Controls.

 

 

Re: 7.5 and Hidden tracks in Eucon

 

:o

 

Nice, it worked!! Thanks a lot!!

How did you find out? Is there a manual update or did you just try and error?

 

8-)

 

Re: 7.5 and Hidden tracks in Eucon

 

Hi, maybe we could suggest a “how eucon works” Manual… for all the Artist Controllers.

 

I am repeatedly estonished … there are many things that work which are merely not documented.

 

Please Steinberg, provide a comprehensive documentation for the Artist series in conjunction with Cubase!

 

Re: 7.5 and Hidden tracks in Eucon

 

I completely agree, I’ve learned so much I didn’t know from this little thread.

 

Re: 7.5 and Hidden tracks in Eucon

 

Hi,

 

back to the original Post: I tried the tip with the “Link Mixers”, but here still there is no synchnronisation among the cubase mixer(s) and the Artist devices I use (Mc Mix and Mx Control).

 

Freddy H… can you tell me the Version of Eucon that you use? OR do you have any other idea ?

 

Re: 7.5 and Hidden tracks in Eucon

 

Elien wrote:

Hi,

 

back to the original Post: I tried the tip with the “Link Mixers”, but here still there is no synchnronisation among the cubase mixer(s) and the Artist devices I use (Mc Mix and Mx Control).

 

Freddy H… can you tell me the Version of Eucon that you use? OR do you have any other idea ?

 

It didn’t worked for me too..

 

Re: 7.5 and Hidden tracks in Eucon

 

I’ve tried it with different Mixers (1&2: 1&3; 2&3, all together) opened and closed, but it didn’t change anything, like i said in my post before…

 

Freddy H, tell us your secret cheat ;-)

New Member

 

Re: 7.5 and Hidden tracks in Eucon

 

Elien wrote:

Hi, maybe we could suggest a “how eucon works” Manual… for all the Artist Controllers.

 

I am repeatedly estonished … there are many things that work which are merely not documented.

 

Please Steinberg, provide a comprehensive documentation for the Artist series in conjunction with Cubase!

 

 

 

1+

 

 

Re: 7.5 and Hidden tracks in Eucon

 

Elien wrote:

Hi, maybe we could suggest a “how eucon works” Manual… for all the Artist Controllers.

 

I am repeatedly estonished … there are many things that work which are merely not documented.

 

Please Steinberg, provide a comprehensive documentation for the Artist series in conjunction with Cubase!

 

 

 

++1

 

 

Artist Mix and C 7.5 – Solo Channel

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Artist Mix and C 7.5 – Solo Channel

 

Hi, I’m having a annoying behaviour in C 7(7.5) with my Artis Mix

 

Every time I select a SOLO channel in the Artist Mix it’s exclusive. So, if I can only solo one channel at time.

However in the mix console (screen) I can solo multiple channels at the same time just clicking the solo buttons.

 

In Eucon if you change Solo In Place to AFL, the Cubase activate/desactivate Listen Mode in the channel when you push solo button in Artist Mix. But again, you can turn on listen mode in ONE channel.

 

Is this a bug? I can’t see the purpose to have exclusive solo active in Artist Mix by default.

 

Thanks.  :?

 

 

re: Artist Mix and C 7.5 – Solo Channel

 

Hi!

 

If you solo one channel, just press ‘ON’ on the other channel(s) you want to activate too.

 

Re: Artist Mix and C 7.5 – Solo Channel

 

 

Tomess wrote:

Hi!

 

If you solo one channel, just press ‘ON’ on the other channel(s) you want to activate too.

 

Greets, Tomess

 

 

It works! Thanks!!!!!  :D   :D   :D

maaaquemeseyo

Junior Member

 

Re: Artist Mix and C 7.5 – Solo Channel

 

 

Hi, in Addition to that you can select the “solo mode” in the eucon application any time – you can select among “solo” and “cubase listen” (it is not called like that but I find it very convenient to control the “Listen” Button via Eucon sometimes) .

 

Re: Artist Mix and C 7.5 – Solo Channel

 

 

Elien wrote:

Hi, in Addition to that you can select the “solo mode” in the eucon application any time – you can select among “solo” and “cubase listen” (it is not called like that but I find it very convenient to control the “Listen” Button via Eucon sometimes) .

 

Cheers, Ernst

 

 

Nice feature. Thanks!

 

Again an Eucon Question

 

 

Hi all,

 

Is it possible to modify Channel EQ Q factor and Type with the Euphonix MC Control V2?

 

When I press “eq” I get to a page that only allows to modify frequency and gain. Am I missing something?

 

 

PS.:

What does the “mix” and the “Group” Buttons do?

 

Re: Again an Eucon Question

 

 

Am I missing something?

 

 

 

Yes!

 

Use the shift button and tap the “FREQ” knob image on the touchscreen… the knob will then operate the “Q” function! You will also notice a yellow dot next to the knob image indicating an alternate function or parameter.

 

Doing the same with the “GAIN” knob image on the touchscreen will let you change the type.

 

Re: Again an Eucon Question

 

 

Many, many thanks!!!

 

Great!

 

Merry Christmass!

 

Ernst

 

PS.: Where in the world did you find all the Options of the Artist series? :)

 

Re: Again an Eucon Question

 

PS.: Where in the world did you find all the Options of the Artist series? :)

 

 

All that info is in the Artist Control Users Guide ver. 3.0 from the AVID website! Just go to the AVID Artist Support download page and scroll to the bottom!

 

Happy Holidays!  :)

 

 

 

 

EuCon Artist Mix not working with Cubase 7 – SOLVED!

 

Haven’t been using Cubase nor my EuCon Artist Mix since upgrading to Cubase 7.0.6 on my MacBook Pro i7 2.66 ghz OS 10.8.5. The EuCon works fine with other applications over the Mackie protocol, and it worked fine over the Eucon protocol with Cubase 6. Now it doesn’t work at all with Cubase 7. Tried to switch off all other networks, restart, install EuControl 3.0.1, but to no avail. Anybody with a solution out there????

 

EDIT: Tried deleting the preference folder and having Cubase rebuild it. That did the trick…

 

 

Repeat Not Working

I am trying to get Repeat to work on some commands and it doesn’t seem to work. I am using Cubase 7.5.

An example of what I want to accomplish is: Step forward in the song one bar. There is a command for this (Step Bar), and I want to be able to hold it down and have the command repeat.

Re: Repeat Not Working

Hi… Works fine here…

Here’s the repro

1. Go to softkeys

2. Select Touchscreen

3. Select the key to program

4. Click Command

5. Select EUCON -> Key Commands -> Transport -> Step Bar

6. Click Repeat

7. Select 3 Times per Second

8. Set Initial Delay at 500ms

 

Steinberg CMC controllers and Avid Artist Series

The CMCs are completely interoperable with the Avid Artist series. I use both simultaneously (CMCs are for remote control from the MIDI area of the studio)

 

Eucon Ports: 4245, 4246 (Both UDP)

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